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Three questions arise in this context: Which programs can be found, where are they and how to get them and transfer them home?
Which programs can be found? | ||
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| 1.1 Files and databases on freely distributable software | ||
| 1.2 A collection of tests | ||
Where do I get them? | ||
| 1.3 Getting files from a FTP server | ||
| 1.4 Getting files from a Mail server | Getting files from a mail-server | |
| 1.5 Getting files from a mailbox | Getting files from a BBS | |
| 1.6 The Fish PD series | The Fish disks | |
How to transfer them home? | ||
| 1.7 How do I Read and write MS-Dos disks? | Reading and writing MS-Dos disks | |
| 1.8 How do I split large files? | How do I split files? | |
Other informations | ||
| 1.9 Discussing things | ||
| 1.10 Other FAQ’s | ||
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Of course you need to know where you find things. Many good choices are listed in this paper, as I hope. Other sources are:
is a list of software and where you find it in Ascii format. It is posted
monthly to the newsgroups comp.sys.amiga.applications,
comp.unix.amiga, and news.answers. Additionally you will find
it on Aminet sites (‘text/doc/AmigaSciSchool-4.01’). It handles
everything listed here and many more, for example GNU software, libraries
(linked and shared), shells, Unix commands, educational and scientific
software and much more.
are lists of the Fish disk contents. (‘fish/doc/fishcon-???.lzh’ on Aminet)
is a cross reference list of the Fish contents. (‘fish/doc/fishxref-???.lzh’ on Aminet) FishXref and Fishcon are in Ascii format.
A Fish disk database, (‘fish/doc/Kingfisher1_30.lha’, which is the program and ‘fish/doc/KFData850.lha’ ,which contains the data, on Aminet or Fish disk 863) allows search by name and context. See section The Fish PD series.
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Comp.sys.amiga.reviews is a moderated newsgroup where tests of soft- and
hardware, books and anything else relevant to the Amiga are posted. Its always
a good idea to check this newsgroup for a review, if you are interested in
something special. Of course you always find only the latest reviews, but
the older postings are available per FTP from math.uh.edu, Directory
‘/pub/Amiga/comp.sys.amiga.reviews’ or on the Fish CDs.
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Things are easy for those who have access to the Internet and a program called FTP (File Transfer Program). Nearly all Unix computers have it, but not all of them allow the use of FTP.
FTP allows you to gain access to some other machines and store and/or
retrieve files. Normally one needs an acoount on the remote machine to use
it, bat a number of machines have a setup that allows everybody to log in
as the user ftp or anonymous, so anybody may get files from
them. The most important of this servers are the Aminet servers, which
mirror each other and hence should have the same files. They are the best
choice if you are looking for Amiga software. Aminet hosts are
Land Name IP Adresse Pfad Files USA (MO) ftp.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 pub/aminet/ ALL USA (CA) ftp.cdrom.com 192.216.222.5 pub/aminet/ 9000 USA (TX) ftp.etsu.edu 192.43.199.20 pub/aminet/ 5000 USA (WI) ftp.netnet.net 198.70.64.3 pub/aminet/ 10000 Scandinavia ftp.luth.se 130.240.18.2 pub/aminet/ 10000 Switzerland ftp.eunet.ch 146.228.10.16 pub/aminet/ 5500 Switzerland ftp.math.ethz.ch 129.132.104.6 pub/aminet/ 1000 Switzerland litamiga.epfl.ch 128.178.151.32 pub/aminet/ 300 Germany kelly.uni-paderborn.de 131.234.128.206 pub/aminet/ ALL Germany ftp.uni-paderborn.de 131.234.2.42 pub/aminet/ ALL Germany ftp.uni-stuttgart.de 129.69.18.15 aminet/ 4500 Germany ftp.uni-erlangen.de 131.188.3.2 pub/aminet/ 7000 Germany ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de 130.149.17.7 pub/aminet/ 4000 Germany ftp.tu-chemnitz.de 192.108.33.193 pub/aminet/ 4000 Germany ftp.fh-augsburg.de 141.82.16.242 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-bremen.de 134.102.228.2 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-oldenburg.de 134.106.40.9 pub/aminet/ 2500 Germany ftp.uni-kl.de 131.246.9.95 pub/aminet/ 1500 Germany ftp.uni-trier.de 136.199.8.81 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-siegen.de 141.99.128.1 pub/aminet/ 1500 Germany ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de 137.226.225.3 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.stud.fh-heilbronn.de 141.7.1.41 pub/aminet/ 600 Germany ftp.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de 132.187.1.2 pub/aminet/ 700 France ftp.cnam.fr 163.173.128.15 pub/aminet/ Portugal ftp.ci.ua.pt 193.136.80.6 pub/aminet/ UK ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk 155.198.1.40 pub/aminet/ ALL UK micros.hensa.ac.uk 148.88.8.84 pub/aminet/ 8500
All these mirrors have a directory ‘/pub/aminet’, where you will find much stuff. Please use a mirror close to you! Some other important hosts are
ftp.funet.fi (Finland) ftp.isca.uiowa.edu (USA) ftp.hawaii.edu (USA) ftp.cso.uiuc.edu (USA) ftp.dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Germany)
Note that grind, aachen and erlangen have the full collection of Fish
disks available! @xref{Fish disk xxx}.
If you don’t find a specific file on your local mirror, try
ftp.wustl.edu, ftp.uni-paderborn.de or ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk;
they keep all files.
To connect to a special host (ftp.uni-erlangen.de for example), you should type
ftp ftp.uni-erlangen.de
The host answers by requesting your login. You should type
ftp
No you are asked for a password. Please type your Email address here, if you have one. If not, use the password ftp.
Now you’re inside the host. There is a number of commands you may execute here. The most important are:
Prints the help text of the FTP command. Additionally you may type ? command to get information on a special command.
Tells the FTP program that you whish to transfer binary files. It is always a good choice to type bin as the very first command! Files you load without the bin command can be corrupt.
Loads the given file from the host. On most Unix machines you can type something like ‘get file.txt -’ or ‘get file.txt |more’ to show a text on the screen. Note that there must not be any blank between the | and the word more!
Loads the given files. pat may contain Unix style like wildcards.
Like get and mget, but transfer files from you to the remote host. This is in most cases not allowed, except for a special directory called ‘incoming’. You can place files here which you want to make public.
Like the usual cd command. The commands get, mget, put, mput, dir and ls refer to the current working directory.
Like ‘list’ and ‘dir’ on the Amiga. Note that the FTP-dir corresponds to the Amiga-list!
Leaves the FTP program.
When you have used FTP for the first times you will notice, that you always begin with executing the same steps:
This may get executed automatically. What you need is a file called ‘.netrc’ in your home directory. Note that it needs to be protected against others! The FTP program doesn’t use it, if it can be read by anything else than you. (Protection is set using the command ‘chmod go-rwx .netrc’.) The .netrc file contains some entries for your most favourite FTP sites, each separated by empy lines. A typicel entry may look like this:
machine ftp.uni-erlangen.de
login ftp
password <your mail address> or <ftp>
macdef init
bin
cd pub/aminet
Note that on some machines it is possible to use the machine name ‘default’ which meets all machines not listed in .netrc.
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Another way to get files is to use a mail server. This assumes that you can send mail to Internet addresses and get mail from Internet hosts. It works by sending a mail to the server specifying some commands, for example send commands for the files you want. Important mail servers are
ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com mailserver@nic.funet.fi mailserver@leo.org mrcserv@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca mail-server@ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu ftp-mail@uni-paderborn.de
The most important commands are:
Tells the server that you wish to get an Ascii file containing detailed explanation how to use the server.
Specifys that you wish to get not more than <number> Kbytes per mail. Larger files get splitted into small pieces of at most <number> Kbytes which are sent as separate mails each. Note that the mails may get larger because of overhead.
Sets the current working directory to <dir>. This directory is used by the commands send and dir.
will return a list of files and/or directories that the server offers. Note that this may be very large!
returns a list of files containing <item> in their names.
returns a list of the files and directories in the given directory.
Tells the server to send the given files to you.
Tells the server to ignore all lines above this command.
Like Begin, but specifies to ignore the lines below. (A signature for example!)
A typical session would be to send the following mail to the mail server:
BEGIN CD /pub/aminet/util/arc SEND LhA_e138.run END
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You also can get files from one of the many BBS’s (Bulletin Board System).
Most of these are driven by private users, so there is nearly everywhere
a mailbox which doesn’t cause a too expensive telephone bill.
I want to publish a list of all Amiga mailboxes here. So please send to me a list of all mailboxes which are related to the Amiga - in any way. I need all telephone numbers of the boxes and their name. Tell me the nation where the box resides and - if possible - some more info (Does the box have Aminet or the Fish PD or FRAS? Is the box especially for Amiga users?)
Thanks, Ignaz Kellerer
For a list of mailboxes in Germany or Austria or Switzerland, look at the German version of the AmigaFAQ.
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A very good source is the Fish PD series. One distinguishes between the floppy disks and the CD-Roms.
| 1.6.1 The Amiga Library disks | ||
| 1.6.2 The Fresh Fish CD-Roms | The Fresh Fish CD-Rom. |
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Fred Fish has started in the middle eighties to collect freely distributable software on floppy disks. There are 1000 disks and very much good stuff on it. Most Amiga dealers sell them and most magazines contain addresses of people mailing them to you for about 3$ per disk or less. Fred Fish has terminated offering software on floppy disks. Instead, there is a dealer who offers the new software from the CD-Roms on floppy disks.
There are some things which can be found on the Fish disks, but not on Aminet. However, you can get them with FTP. @xref{Fish disk xxx}.
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Fred Fish is going on to offer freely distributable software. But now he collects it on CD-Rom’s. He releases two different kinds of CD’s:
I recommend especially the first kind of Fish CD’s. They cost about 20$ plus 3$ for shipping (5$ outside USA/Canada/Mexico) and are available from
Amiga Library Services 610 N. Alma School Road, Suite 18 Chandler, AZ 85224-3687 U.S.A. Phone/FAX: (602) 917-0917
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No problem for owners of Workbench 2.1 or higher: The program CrossDos is part of the Workbench. All you have to do is mounting the device ‘pc0:’ by putting it into the drawer ‘Devs:DOSDrivers’ or by double-clicking the icon in ‘Sys:Storage/DOSDrivers’. Ms-Dos disks in drive ‘df0:’ can now be handled in the usual manner replacing the word ‘df0:’ by ‘pc0:’. For example the directory can be shown with the command dir pc0:.
People still running Workbench 2.0 or lower need a program called MSH.
You will find this on the Aminet (directory misc/emu) and on Fish disk 382.
See section Where and how do I get software and other informations?. After editing the file ‘devs:MountList’ as described in
the documentation you have to say Mount msh: in the CLI and can now do
the same as above replacing the word ‘pc0:’ with ‘msh:’.
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There are some archives which are too large to fit on one disk. To transfer
them on disks you need to split them into smaller pieces and transfer each
part on a separate disk. I recommend Martin Schlodder’s Splitter.
(Aminet, ‘util/misc/splitter_121.lha’. The archive contains binaries
for MS-DOS and should be compilable without problems on any Unix system.
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A mailing list is a server that allows to discuss special things via Email. The server holds a list of people that are interested in the respective topic. For example, the gcc mailing list will discuss bugs, new features and other problems of gcc. (@pxref{Compilers}) If a mail is sent to the server from someone he will forward this mail to all the other people on the list.
You will be added to the list by sending a mail to the server which will usually contain the word ‘Subscribe’ or something similar. Once you are no more interested in the mailing list you can unsubscribe.
Unforunately the servers have a different syntax of subscribing and unsubscribing. The best way to find how to subscribe is to send a mail with the word ‘Help’ to the server. He will reply a mail which should explain how to handle this special server.
Some mailing lists are:
Topic Server
Amok listserv@amokle.stgt.sub.org
Dice dice-request@castrov.cuc.ab.ca or
dice-request@hactar.hanse.de (Germany)
gcc listserv@lists.funet.fi
Lisp amigalisp@contessa.phone.net
Mui mui-request@taloa.unice.fr
Oberon-A oberon-a-request@wossname.apana.org.au
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This is not the only FAQ, of course. Lots of FAQ’s are available either by being posted to newsgroups or by access via FTP.
This is the german translation of the AmigaFAQ you are reading. Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.amiga.misc, zer.z-netz.rechner.amiga.allgemein HTML: ‘http://www.leo.org/archiv/amiga/misc/amigafaq/’ Aminet: ‘docs/misc/AmigaFAQg.lha’ Maintainer: Ignaz Kellerer, kellerer@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
This is a list of books for the Amiga, including short discussions, prices and sources. Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc, comp.sys.amiga.introduction, comp.sys.amiga.programmer (monthly) HTML: ‘http://eksl-www.cs.umass.edu/~atkin/amiga/books.faq.html’ Ftp: rtfm.mit.edu, ‘pub/usenet/comp.sys.amiga.misc’. Maintainer: Marc Atkin, atkin@cs.umass.edu
This is for users of AmiTCP/IP, a set of programs which allows to include an Amiga into a TCP/IP network. (Most well known nets, Internet for example use TCP/IP.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc, comp.sys.amiga.datacomm, comp.sys.amiga.networking (biweekly) Ftp: rtfm.mit.edu, pub/usenet/comp.sys.amiga.networking Maintainer: Neil J. McRae (atcpfaq@domino.demon.co.uk)
Unlike the AmiTCP/IP FAQ this one wants to cover all aspects of networking, including TCP/IP and Envoy. Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm, comp.sys.amiga.hardware Ftp: rtfm.mit.edu, pub/usenet/comp.sys.amiga.networking Maintainer: Richard Norman (norman@afas.msfc.nasa.gov)
Networking seems to be quite a problem: This FAQ os for Point Manager, a FidoNet-client (so-called points). Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Ftp: rtfm.mit.edu, pub/usenet/comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Maintainer: Eric Krieger (pm_faq@quasar.hacktic.nl)
Explains the usage of the file transfer program FTP. See section Getting files from a FTP server. Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc (monthly) Ftp: Aminet, info/start Betreuer: Urban Dominik Mueller (umueller@amiga.icu.net.ch)
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